[Clamwin-users] Users and Open Source

[Joshua Martin]

David:

I don't want this mailing list to be a soap box for either type of software
production (open source or proprietary), but I must say that I am distasted
by your assumption that my clients are ignorant, consumptive users who care
nothing about the terms by which they are "allowed" to use software created
by a proprietary source.

In fact, I have a few business owners who are excited to learn that a piece
of software they use is open source - not necessarily because it costs less
or enables more flexible use. Rather, they know that are able to work
directly with the developers of a software product (just as we're doing
right here, right now) to fix problems, improve functionality, or expand
features.

I don't know what kind of clients you have to work with - but I am quite the
lucky consultant here in Southwest Virgina, because my clients actually care
whether or not they are using a software product whose developers worked
just to make a buck, or rather to create a more useful, secure, and flexible
technology.

BTW..... What about???


Apache (used by 50% of the Web)

Firefox (used by 20% users)

FreeBSD (used by Yahoo! and once used by Microsoft)

PacketFilter (used by Chinese government firewall)

SELinux (created by NSA)

K Desktop Environment (used by Lowe's Hardware)

SUSE Linux (used by Wal-Mart)

Linux kernel (used by Cisco for $ routers)

Red Hat Enterprise Linux (used by Google)

OpenOffice (used by more than 150 million users and standard in 30
countries)


Is all this just crappy code???

[jerry]

AND YOUR POINT IS???
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Martin
To: ClamWin Users Discussion List
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:09 PM
Subject: [Clamwin-users] Users and Open Source


David:

I don't want this mailing list to be a soap box for either type of software production (open source or proprietary), but I must say that I am distasted by your assumption that my clients are ignorant, consumptive users who care nothing about the terms by which they are "allowed" to use software created by a proprietary source.

In fact, I have a few business owners who are excited to learn that a piece of software they use is open source - not necessarily because it costs less or enables more flexible use. Rather, they know that are able to work directly with the developers of a software product (just as we're doing right here, right now) to fix problems, improve functionality, or expand features.

I don't know what kind of clients you have to work with - but I am quite the lucky consultant here in Southwest Virgina, because my clients actually care whether or not they are using a software product whose developers worked just to make a buck, or rather to create a more useful, secure, and flexible technology.

BTW..... What about???



Apache (used by 50% of the Web)

Firefox (used by 20% users)

FreeBSD (used by Yahoo! and once used by Microsoft)

PacketFilter (used by Chinese government firewall)

SELinux (created by NSA)

K Desktop Environment (used by Lowe's Hardware)

SUSE Linux (used by Wal-Mart)

Linux kernel (used by Cisco for $ routers)

Red Hat Enterprise Linux (used by Google)

OpenOffice (used by more than 150 million users and standard in 30 countries)



Is all this just crappy code???

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Joshua S. Martin



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[Alch]

Just a friendly reminder to keep this mailing list focused on issues
related to ClamWin. Please take any other matters off this list and to a
private discussion.

/AND YOUR POINT IS???/
----- Original Message -----
*To:* ClamWin Users Discussion List
*Sent:* Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:09 PM
*Subject:* [Clamwin-users] Users and Open Source
I don't want this mailing list to be a soap box for either type of
software production (open source or proprietary), but I must say
that I am distasted by your assumption that my clients are
ignorant, consumptive users who care nothing about the terms by
which they are "allowed" to use software created by a proprietary
source.
In fact, I have a few business owners who are excited to learn
that a piece of software they use is open source - not necessarily
because it costs less or enables more flexible use. Rather, they
know that are able to work directly with the developers of a
software product (just as we're doing right here, right now) to
fix problems, improve functionality, or expand features.
I don't know what kind of clients you have to work with - but I am
quite the lucky consultant here in Southwest Virgina, because my
clients actually care whether or not they are using a software
product whose developers worked just to make a buck, or rather to
create a more useful, secure, and flexible technology.
BTW..... What about???
Apache (used by 50% of the Web)
Firefox (used by 20% users)
FreeBSD (used by Yahoo! and once used by Microsoft)
PacketFilter (used by Chinese government firewall)
SELinux (created by NSA)
K Desktop Environment (used by Lowe's Hardware)
SUSE Linux (used by Wal-Mart)
Linux kernel (used by Cisco for $ routers)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux (used by Google)
OpenOffice (used by more than 150 million users and standard in 30 countries)
Is all this just crappy code???
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Joshua S. Martin
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